John Young
M, #9801, Deceased, b. about 15 January 1693, d. after 1737
Parents
Family
Biography
Birth | about 15 January 1693 | John Young was born about 15 January 1693 in Stirling, Stirlingshire, Scotland (Medieval), EuropeG. Date is estimated from his Christening / location same |
Marriage | 20 March 1719 | He and Helen Forsyth were married on 20 March 1719 in Denny, Stirlingshire, Scotland (Kingdom of Great Britain), EuropeG. |
Death | after 1737 | He died after 1737 in Stirling, Stirlingshire, Scotland (Kingdom of Great Britain), EuropeG. The cause of his death (at the age of 44) in the year of 1737 is not known-surviving in 1737 was difficult & it occurred in Medieval Scotland (location not known; used birth place) |
Person Source | | John Young had person sources.1 |
Christening | 15 January 1693 | He was christened on 15 January 1693 in Denny, Stirlingshire, Scotland (Medieval), EuropeG.2 |
Last Edited |
12 February 2025 |
Citations
- [S1058] Ancestry.com, Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950















- [S817] "Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTL9-Q8R: 10 February 2018), John Young,; citing Denny, Stirlingshire, Scotland, reference 2:17B7RX8, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,041,975.
Joan Poynings
F, #9802, Deceased, b. 1342, d. 30 May 1394
Family
Biography
Birth | 1342 | Joan Poynings was born in 1342 in Luton, Bedfordshire, England (Medieval), EuropeG. |
Death | 30 May 1394 | She died on 30 May 1394 at age ~52 in Luton, Bedfordshire, England (Medieval), EuropeG. The cause of her death (at the age of 52) on Friday, May 30th, 1394 is not known-surviving in 1394 was difficult & it occurred in Medieval England (location not known; used birth place) |
Person Source | | Joan Poynings had person sources.1 |
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Johanna Greene
F, #9803, Deceased, b. 1374, d. 1401
Parents
Biography
Birth | 1374 | Johanna Greene was born in 1374 in Green's Norton, Northamptonshire, England (Medieval), EuropeG. |
Marriage | 1389 | Baldwin de Freville, IV, and she were married in 1389. |
Death | 1401 | She died in 1401 at age ~27 at Tamworth CastleG in Tamworth, Warwickshire, England (Medieval), EuropeG. The cause of her death (at the age of 27) in the year of 1401 is not known-surviving in 1401 was difficult & it occurred in Medieval England |
Name | | Johanna Greene was also known as Joan de Greene. |
Person Source | | She had person sources.1 |
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Henry de Ferrers
M, #9804, Deceased, b. about 1390, d. after 1390
Parents
Biography
Birth | about 1390 | Henry de Ferrers was born about 1390. |
Death | after 1390 | He died after 1390 at This global place was used as neither death nor birth locations are knownG in A Conceptual Continent that surrounds the Region of OceaniaG+. The cause of his death (sadly, as an infant in their 1st year) in the year of 1390 is not known-surviving in 1390 as an infant was difficult-as neither death or birth location are known, used the conceptual continent |
Person Source | | Henry de Ferrers had person sources.1 |
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Aron Abrahams van Collem
M, #9805, Deceased, b. 1735, d. 6 February 1803
Parents
Biography
Birth | 1735 | Aron Abrahams van Collem was born in 1735 in Amsterdam, North Holland, The Netherlands, EuropeG. |
Death | 6 February 1803 | He died The cause of his death (at the age of 68) on Sunday, February 6th, 1803 is not known on 6 February 1803 at age ~68 in Amsterdam, North Holland, The Netherlands, EuropeG. His death is not known & it occurred in The Netherlands |
Name | | Aron Abrahams van Collem was also known as van Kollem. |
Person Source | | He had person sources.1 |
Citations
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Maurice FitzMaurice
M, #9806, Deceased, b. 1238, d. 7 November 1286
Parents
Family
Biography
Birth | 1238 | Maurice FitzMaurice was born in 1238 in County Offaly, Ireland, EuropeG. |
Death | 7 November 1286 | He died on 7 November 1286 at age ~48 at Ros Mhic ThriúinG in Wexford, County Wexford, Ireland, EuropeG. The cause of his death (at the age of 48) on Thursday, November 7th, 1286 is not known-surviving in 1286 was difficult & it occurred in Ireland |
Burial | after 1286 | He was buried after 1286 at Buried in an unknown cemeteryG in Wexford, County Wexford, Ireland, EuropeG. |
Person Source | | Maurice FitzMaurice had person sources.1 |
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Esther
F, #9807, Deceased, b. 1791, d. about 1865
Biography
Birth | 1791 | Esther was born in 1791 at MN HamptonG in Hampton, Gloucestershire, England (Kingdom of Great Britain), EuropeG. |
Death | about 1865 | She died The cause of her death (at the age of 74) in the year of 1865 is not known about 1865 at age ~74 in Hampton, Gloucestershire, England (Kingdom of Great Britain), EuropeG. Her death is not known & it occurred in the Kingdom of Great Britain (location not known; used birth place) |
Burial | 10 December 1865 | She was buried on 10 December 1865 at Buried in an unknown cemeteryG in Amberley, Gloucestershire, England (United Kingdom), EuropeG. |
Name | | Esther was also known as Hester. |
Person Source | | She had person sources.1 |
Residence | 1841 | She lived in King's Stanley, Gloucestershire, England (United Kingdom), EuropeG, in 1841. Resource event had no description; added / NFIA |
Residence | 1851 | She lived in Minchinhampton, Gloucestershire, England (United Kingdom), EuropeG, in 1851. Relationship: Wife |
Residence | 1861 | She lived in Minchinhampton, Gloucestershire, England (United Kingdom), EuropeG, in 1861. Relationship: Wife |
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Giles, of Badlesmere
M, #9808, Deceased, b. 1 October 1314, d. 7 June 1338
Parents
Biography
Birth | 1 October 1314 | Giles, of Badlesmere, was born on 1 October 1314 in Hambleton, Rutlandshire, England (Medieval), EuropeG. |
Death | 7 June 1338 | He died on 7 June 1338 at age 23 in Badlesmere, County of Kent, England (Medieval), EuropeG. The cause of his death (at the age of 24) on Saturday, June 7th, 1338 is not known-surviving in 1338 was difficult & it occurred in Medieval England |
Person Source | | Giles, of Badlesmere, had person sources.1 |
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Thomas de Vere
M, #9809, Deceased, b. 1335, d. 18 September 1371
Parents
Biography
Birth | 1335 | Thomas de Vere was born in 1335 in England (Medieval), EuropeG+. |
Death | 18 September 1371 | He died on 18 September 1371 at age ~36 in Great Bentley, Essexshire, England (Medieval), EuropeG. The cause of his death (at the age of 36) on Wednesday, September 18th, 1371 is not known-surviving in 1371 was difficult & it occurred in Medieval England |
Burial | after 1371 | He was buried after 1371 at Buried in the cemetery at the Church of Bures Saint MaryG in Babergh District, Suffolk County, England (Medieval), EuropeG. |
Person Source | | Thomas de Vere had person sources.1 |
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Albérade de Nogent
F, #9810, Deceased, b. 969, d. 1022
Parents
Family
Biography
Birth | 969 | Albérade de Nogent was born in 969 at ÉvreuxG, in Eure, Haute-Normandië, France (Medieval), EuropeG. |
Marriage | about 992 | Guilaume de Hainaut and she were married about 992. |
Death | 1022 | She died in 1022 at age ~53 at Montfort-sur-RisleG, in Eure, Haute-Normandië, France (Medieval), EuropeG. The cause of her death (at the age of 53) in the year of 1022 is not known-surviving in 1022 was difficult & it occurred in Medieval France |
Name | | Albérade de Nogent was also known as Albreda Montfort, d'Esperon. |
Note | | Albreda de Montfort Birthdate: 969 Birthplace: Normandy, France Death: circa 1022 (48-58) Immediate Family:
Daughter of Hughes de Nogent, II, Lord of Montfort and Judith De Nogent Wife of Lord Guillaume de Hainaut, Seigneur de Montfort-l'Amaury & Count de Haynault Mother of Amaury I, seigneur de Montfort
Source: https://www.geni.com/people/Albreda-de-Montfort/6000000031928221957?through=6000000000124012386. |
Person Source | | She had person sources.1 |
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Isabelle de Montfort, {Tagged} Research Death
F, #9811, Deceased, b. about 1058, d. between July 1147 and 1158
Parents
Biography
Birth | about 1058 | Isabelle de Montfort, {Tagged} Research Death, was born about 1058 at YvelinesG in Montfort-l'Amaury, Île-de-France, France (Medieval), EuropeG. |
Death | between July 1147 and 1158 | She died between July 1147 and 1158 in Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England (Medieval), EuropeG. The cause of her death (at the age of 89) in July, 1147 is not known-surviving in 1147 was difficult
Died as the Lady of Nogent |
Person Source | | Isabelle de Montfort, {Tagged} Research Death, had person sources.1 |
Title | after 1058 | She held the title of Lady of Nogent after 1058. |
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Ælfthryth
F, #9812, Deceased, b. before 899, d. 929
Parents
Biography
Birth | before 899 | Ælfthryth was born before 899 in Wessex Kingdom, England (MiddleAges part of Anglo-Saxon Britain), EuropeG+. |
Death | 929 | She died in 929 at Flanders, Interred St Peters AbbeyG, in Gent, Oost-Vlaanderen, Belgium, EuropeG. The cause of her death (at the age of 30) in the year of 929AD is not known-surviving in 929 was difficult & it occurred in Belgium |
Name | | Ælfthryth was also known as Elfrida. |
Person Source | | She had person sources.1 |
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Edburga, Don's 35th GGMat the end of this branch
F, #9813, Deceased, b. 830, d. 895
Family
Biography
Birth | 830 | Edburga, Don's 35th GGMat the end of this branch, was born in 830 in Region of Mercia, Lancashire, England (MiddleAges part of Anglo-Saxon Britain), EuropeG. |
Marriage | before 866 | Æthelred Mucil, II (Don's 35th GGF at the end of this branch), and she were married before 866. |
Death | 895 | She died in 895 at age ~65 in Region of Mercia, Lancashire, England (MiddleAges part of Anglo-Saxon Britain), EuropeG. The cause of her death (at the age of 65) in the year of 895AD is not known-surviving in 895 was difficult & it occurred in the Middle-ages of England |
Person Source | | Edburga, Don's 35th GGMat the end of this branch, had person sources.1 |
Last Edited |
15 October 2024 |
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William Young
M, #9814, Deceased, b. before 11 February 1766, d. after 1766
Parents
Biography
Birth | before 11 February 1766 | William Young was born before 11 February 1766 in Denny, Stirlingshire, Scotland (Kingdom of Great Britain), EuropeG. |
Death | after 1766 | He died after 1766 in Denny, Stirlingshire, Scotland (Kingdom of Great Britain), EuropeG. The cause of his death (sadly, as an infant in their 1st year) in the year of 1766 is not known-surviving in 1766 as an infant was difficult & it occurred in today's Scotland (location not known; used birth place) |
Baptism | 11 February 1766 | William Young was baptized on 11 February 1766 in Denny, Stirlingshire, Scotland (United Kingdom), EuropeG.1 |
Last Edited |
12 February 2025 |
Citations
- [S1058] Ancestry.com, Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950















Helen Forsyth
F, #9815, Deceased, b. about 1698, d. after 1737
Family
Family: John Young (b. about 15 January 1693, d. after 1737)
Biography
Birth | about 1698 | Helen Forsyth was born about 1698 in Denny, Stirlingshire, Scotland (Medieval), EuropeG. |
Marriage | 20 March 1719 | John Young and she were married on 20 March 1719 in Denny, Stirlingshire, Scotland (Kingdom of Great Britain), EuropeG. |
Death | after 1737 | She died after 1737 in Denny, Stirlingshire, Scotland (Medieval), EuropeG. The cause of her death (at the age of 39) in the year of 1737 is not known-surviving in 1737 was difficult & it occurred in Medieval Scotland (location not known; used birth place) |
Person Source | | Helen Forsyth had person sources.1 |
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Henry de Ferrers
M, #9816, Deceased, b. 16 February 1355, d. 1388
Family
Biography
Birth | 16 February 1355 | Henry de Ferrers was born on 16 February 1355 in Tiltey, Essexshire, England (Medieval), EuropeG. |
Death | 1388 | He died in 1388 at age ~33 in Tiltey, Essexshire, England (Medieval), EuropeG. The cause of his death (at the age of 33) in the year of 1388 is not known-surviving in 1388 was difficult
Died as Lord Ferrers of Groby |
Person Source | | Henry de Ferrers had person sources.1 |
Title | after 1355 | He held the title of Lord Ferrers of Groby after 1355. |
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William de Gometz-La-Ferte, I
M, #9817, Deceased, b. about 975, d. after 1001
Family
Biography
Birth | about 975 | William de Gometz-La-Ferte, I, was born about 975 in Île-de-France, France (Medieval), EuropeG. |
Death | after 1001 | He died after 1001 in Île-de-France, France (Medieval), EuropeG. The cause of his death (at the age of 26) in the year of 1001 is not known-surviving in 1001 was difficult & it occurred in Medieval France (location not known; used birth place) |
Person Source | | William de Gometz-La-Ferte, I, had person sources.1 |
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Eliazer Abrahams van Collem
M, #9818, Deceased, b. 1739, d. 27 December 1802
Parents
Biography
Birth | 1739 | Eliazer Abrahams van Collem was born in 1739 in Amsterdam, North Holland, The Netherlands, EuropeG. |
Death | 27 December 1802 | He died The cause of his death (at the age of 63) on Monday, December 27th, 1802 is not known on 27 December 1802 at age ~63 at Zuid-HollandG+ in Rotterdam, The Netherlands, EuropeG. His death is not known & it occurred in The Netherlands |
Name | | Eliazer Abrahams van Collem was also known as van Kollem. |
Person Source | | He had person sources.1 |
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Amauri IV de Montfort, III
M, #9819, Deceased, b. 22 May 1070, d. 19 April 1137
Parents
Biography
Birth | 22 May 1070 | Amauri IV de Montfort, III, was born on 22 May 1070 at MontfortG in Yvelines, Île-de-France, France (Medieval), EuropeG. |
Death | 19 April 1137 | He died on 19 April 1137 at age 66 at ÉvreuxG, in Eure, Haute-Normandië, France (Medieval), EuropeG. The cause of his death (at the age of 67) on Monday, April 19th, 1137 is not known-surviving in 1137 was difficult & it occurred in Medieval France |
Person Source | | Amauri IV de Montfort, III, had person sources.1 |
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Aubrey de Vere
M, #9820, Deceased, b. 1338, d. 23 April 1400
Parents
Biography
Birth | 1338 | Aubrey de Vere was born in 1338 in Oxford, Oxfordshire, England (Medieval), EuropeG. |
Death | 23 April 1400 | He died on 23 April 1400 at age ~62 in County of Essexshire, England (Medieval), EuropeG+. The cause of his death (at the age of 62) on Wednesday, April 23rd, 1400 is not known-surviving in 1400 was difficult & it occurred in Medieval England |
Burial | after 1400 | He was buried after 1400 at Buried in an unknown cemeteryG in Hadleigh, Essexshire, England (Medieval), EuropeG. |
Person Source | | Aubrey de Vere had person sources.1 |
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Robert Curnock, 2nd
M, #9821, Deceased, b. 1741, d. 30 March 1803
Parents
Person Exhibits

Crest of Cornock Family [in Coats of Arms & Flags]
Biography
Birth | 1741 | Robert Curnock, 2nd, was born in 1741 in Slimbridge, Gloucestershire, England (Kingdom of Great Britain), EuropeG. |
Death | 30 March 1803 | He died The cause of his death (at the age of 62) on Wednesday, March 30th, 1803 is not known on 30 March 1803 at age ~62 in North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England (United Kingdom), EuropeG. His death is not known & it occurred in today's England |
Person Source | | Robert Curnock, 2nd, had person sources.1 |
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Thomas Curnock
M, #9822, Deceased, b. 1731, d. about 1794
Parents
Person Exhibits

Crest of Cornock Family [in Coats of Arms & Flags]
Biography
Birth | 1731 | Thomas Curnock was born in 1731 in Slimbridge, Gloucestershire, England (Kingdom of Great Britain), EuropeG. |
Death | about 1794 | He died about 1794 at age ~63 in Slimbridge, Gloucestershire, England (Kingdom of Great Britain), EuropeG. The cause of his death (at the age of 63) in the year of 1794 is not known-surviving in 1794 was difficult & it occurred in England of the Kingdom of Great Britain |
Person Source | | Thomas Curnock had person sources.1 |
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John Feribee
M, #9823, Deceased, b. 16 March 1750, d. 1794
Parents
Biography
Birth | 16 March 1750 | John Feribee was born on 16 March 1750 in Uley, Gloucestershire, England (Kingdom of Great Britain), EuropeG. |
Death | 1794 | He died in 1794 at age ~44 in Uley, Gloucestershire, England (Kingdom of Great Britain), EuropeG. The cause of his death (at the age of 44) in the year of 1794 is not known-surviving in 1794 was difficult & it occurred in England of the Kingdom of Great Britain |
Person Source | | John Feribee had person sources.1 |
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Margaret Curnock
F, #9824, Deceased, b. 1735, d. 1736
Parents
Person Exhibits

Crest of Cornock Family [in Coats of Arms & Flags]
Biography
Birth | 1735 | Margaret Curnock was born in 1735 in Slimbridge, Gloucestershire, England (Kingdom of Great Britain), EuropeG. |
Death | 1736 | She died in 1736 at age ~1 in Slimbridge, Gloucestershire, England (Kingdom of Great Britain), EuropeG. The cause of her death (sadly, as an infant in their 2nd year) in the year of 1736 is not known-surviving in 1736 as an infant was difficult & it occurred in the Kingdom of Great Britain |
Person Source | | Margaret Curnock had person sources.1 |
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John Curnock
M, #9825, Deceased, b. 15 July 1697, d. 21 August 1757
Parents
Family
Family: Sarah Ann Sims (b. December 1700, d. 13 December 1748)
Son* | John Curnock (b. 5 December 1722, d. 22 February 1754) |
Son* | Thomas Curnock (b. 1725, d. 1727) |
Daughter* | Sarah Curnock (b. 1728, d. after 1814) |
Daughter* | Elizabeth Curnock+ (b. 3 October 1728, d. after 1765) |
Son* | Thomas Curnock (b. 1731, d. about 1794) |
Son* | Robert Curnock, 1St (b. 21 September 1734, d. 1735) |
Daughter* | Margaret Curnock (b. 1735, d. 1736) |
Son* | Francis Curnock (b. 1740, d. after 1740) |
Son* | Robert Curnock, 2nd (b. 1741, d. 30 March 1803) |
Person Exhibits

Crest of Cornock Family [in Coats of Arms & Flags]
Biography
Birth | 15 July 1697 | John Curnock was born on 15 July 1697 in Slimbridge, Gloucestershire, England (Tudor), EuropeG. |
Marriage | 1721 | He and Sarah Ann Sims were married in 1721 in Slimbridge, Gloucestershire, England (Kingdom of Great Britain), EuropeG. |
Death | 21 August 1757 | He died on 21 August 1757 at age 60 in Slimbridge, Gloucestershire, England (Kingdom of Great Britain), EuropeG. The cause of his death (at the age of 60) on Sunday, August 21st, 1757 is not known-surviving in 1757 was difficult & it occurred in England of the Kingdom of Great Britain |
Burial | 27 August 1757 | He was buried on 27 August 1757 at Buried in an unknown cemeteryG in Slimbridge, Gloucestershire, England (Kingdom of Great Britain), EuropeG. |
Person Source | | John Curnock had person sources.1 |
Residence | 22 June 1745 | He lived in Slimbridge, Gloucestershire, England (Kingdom of Great Britain), EuropeG, on 22 June 1745. Resource event had no description; added / NFIA |
Residence | before 1757 | He lived in Slimbridge, Gloucestershire, England (Kingdom of Great Britain), EuropeG, before 1757. Resource event had no description; added / NFIA |
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